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ephoops

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If Kolek and Miller had stayed, who are the starting five? I believe it's:

Starters:
Kolek
Bailey
Ticket
Miller
Oduro


Bench:
Polite
Cooper
Ojiako
Henry
Fernandez

Three starters and two key reserves are DP recruits.
 

ephoops

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I also thought that today's game against Loyola was KE's best coached game of his young career.

* No Ticket
* Oduro foul trouble in 2nd half
* Polite foul trouble in first half
* Several times at the start of a time out he pulled aside a player and "coached 'em up."

It just felt like KE was in control at all times.
 

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Our team last year was basically the Starting 5 having to do everything on the court and we went into Phog Allen Fieldhouse last year and almost beat the 2022 National Champions in Kansas.

It was a 2 possession game with 3 minutes left to go.



I think Kim English is really good. He says all of the right things. It just takes time to get results. No one is building a Championship level program in 1-2 years. Kim English is moving the program in the right direction. Mason fans just gotta wait a little longer.

I think the future of Mason Basketball is bright with Kim English.
 
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Someone who hasn’t seen much of our program in person was with me today and made the comment that there was too much coaching going on during the game, to the point it seemed like the team was in their heads too much.

Had not thought about this, as I thought it’s been a good change. But is there something too it? JF finally got run and didn’t get yanked as soon as he made a mistake and had a solid game. Have guys been looking over their shoulders too much? Is KE projecting a micromanager style in game?
 

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If Kolek and Miller had stayed, who are the starting five? I believe it's:

Starters:
Kolek
Bailey
Ticket
Miller
Oduro


Bench:
Polite
Cooper
Ojiako
Henry
Fernandez

Three starters and two key reserves are DP recruits.
Kolek might never been a point guard considering he could barely dribble here. Have to give some credit to Shaka Smart.
 

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Someone who hasn’t seen much of our program in person was with me today and made the comment that there was too much coaching going on during the game, to the point it seemed like the team was in their heads too much.

Had not thought about this, as I thought it’s been a good change. But is there something too it? JF finally got run and didn’t get yanked as soon as he made a mistake and had a solid game. Have guys been looking over their shoulders too much? Is KE projecting a micromanager style in game?
Interesting question.
 

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Someone who hasn’t seen much of our program in person was with me today and made the comment that there was too much coaching going on during the game, to the point it seemed like the team was in their heads too much.

Had not thought about this, as I thought it’s been a good change. But is there something too it? JF finally got run and didn’t get yanked as soon as he made a mistake and had a solid game. Have guys been looking over their shoulders too much? Is KE projecting a micromanager style in game?

It's better than staring at the ceiling, adjusting your tie, and thinking about your roll over contract from GATech.

Seriously though, Kim needs to learn to whistle.
 

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Good stuff after a mildly frustrating first half with all those shots not falling.

Echoing some of the positive comments above, I think we're all a little too stuck in "this has to be the year to make some noise" mode.

Fernandez and Dinkins are good and getting better/more comfortable and it's just the start of conference play. The offense felt more fluid at times in the second half. Things are gelling. I don't think this team is going to flame out like last year. Hopefully it continues to come together and they're playing their best ball in late February - March.

I know we lose a lot in the offseason, but it's starting to feel like year three could be a lot of fun, too...
 

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CKE is mentioned (along with many, many others). He's in the Not Quite There? category.

KIM ENGLISH:
English is a former NBA player that starred at Mizzou and has made inroads in the coaching industry as an ace recruiter. George Mason hired him two offseasons ago to revitalize the once proud program, which was seen as a great move at the time. He’s a starlet with a microphone, active with Mason’s student body, and a top notch recruiter. He’s recruited well thus far but the results on the court aren’t quite there yet. He’s posted a pedestrian 23-22 record. He is a few years away, if he ever does put it together at George Mason, but it may be inevitable that the media links him to an opening at Georgetown.

 

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Saw that Dennis Gates might be linked to the Texas job which would open up Missouri again. I agree with the above that CKE isn’t quite there yet, but I suspect he will be rumored every year.

Although at this juncture Texas most likely will stick with their assistant who is highly regarded.
 

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Saw that Dennis Gates might be linked to the Texas job which would open up Missouri again. I agree with the above that CKE isn’t quite there yet, but I suspect he will be rumored every year.

Although at this juncture Texas most likely will stick with their assistant who is highly regarded.
North Texas coach will end up at Texas I hope. Gates is about to go from 3 losses to 10 very soon so I’m not too worried. CKE couldn’t get a job at Joes Crab Shack yet much less an SEC school
 

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We have a spectacular ability to blow solid leads in conference roadies in the KE era. This is his biggest thing to figure out. IDGAF about free throws, we missed all of them before we took an 8 point lead with two minutes left. I believe in gravity - losing teams find ways to lose. Need a breakthrough in the worst way, I really thought Kimmie coached his tits off for the first 38 minutes.
 

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I probably won't have time to dive through specific possessions but we absolutely SUCK at trying to take the air out of the ball. We naturally move slow already! Any possession that starts with a Josh post-up isn't getting a shot up with more than 8 seconds left on the shot clock anyway. When Ronnie dribble dribble dribbles and we don't get into our action until 12s we NEVER score. It's always an awful possession with an awful shot or sometimes a shot clock violation. Maddening.
 

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We have a spectacular ability to blow solid leads in conference roadies in the KE era. This is his biggest thing to figure out. IDGAF about free throws, we missed all of them before we took an 8 point lead with two minutes left. I believe in gravity - losing teams find ways to lose. Need a breakthrough in the worst way, I really thought Kimmie coached his tits off for the first 38 minutes.
Feeling stupid here...I thought I knew what these graphs were saying, but now I don't. I thought they were a graph of the score over time from left to right with the centerline being tied and the further away you go from there indicates a lead.

What has me confused is the SLU game. They beat us by one, but if my understanding is correct, the graph seems to say they beat us by 10 or more points based on the other peaks.

Can you help me understand them?
 

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I probably won't have time to dive through specific possessions but we absolutely SUCK at trying to take the air out of the ball. We naturally move slow already! Any possession that starts with a Josh post-up isn't getting a shot up with more than 8 seconds left on the shot clock anyway. When Ronnie dribble dribble dribbles and we don't get into our action until 12s we NEVER score. It's always an awful possession with an awful shot or sometimes a shot clock violation. Maddening.
If I am reading CKE and the other coaches correctly during the games it is maddening to them as well. They are repeatedly encouraging the guys to pick up the pace getting the ball down the court when they do this slow paced play.
 

psyclone

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Feeling stupid here...I thought I knew what these graphs were saying, but now I don't. I thought they were a graph of the score over time from left to right with the centerline being tied and the further away you go from there indicates a lead.

What has me confused is the SLU game. They beat us by one, but if my understanding is correct, the graph seems to say they beat us by 10 or more points based on the other peaks.

Can you help me understand them?
The graph represents a team's probability of winning, not the point differential. Hence by the end of the game, the graph always is at the very top (100% chance that the visitors won) or very bottom (100% that the home team won). When it's 50%, the line is in the middle of the graph.
 

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The graph represents a team's probability of winning, not the point differential. Hence by the end of the game, the graph always is at the very top (100% chance that the visitors won) or very bottom (100% that the home team won). When it's 50%, the line is in the middle of the graph.
Ahh that makes sense. Thanks! I don't think it is as useful to make Petey's point that we blow leads at the end as graphing the score would, but still points that way.
 

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Ahh that makes sense. Thanks! I don't think it is as useful to make Petey's point that we blow leads at the end as graphing the score would, but still points that way.
I think the line plunging vertically at the end of the graph tells the story pretty well. In all those games Mason’s win probability was high until the very end. It’s just gross how many times that has happened in a season and a half.
 

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I think the line plunging vertically at the end of the graph tells the story pretty well. In all those games Mason’s win probability was high until the very end. It’s just gross how many times that has happened in a season and a half.
It does, but, to me, it is an exaggeration since it will always plunge for a loss (or spike up if we win).
 

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It does, but, to me, it is an exaggeration since it will always plunge for a loss (or spike up if we win).
I’m not a math guy by any stretch, but I think it only changes sharply like that when a big lead goes away in a short period of time, aka The Mason Special (trademarked)
 
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