NIL Thread

[GM Logo Guy]

But what percentage of our budget would you attribute to essentially our G League team? OR would you try to pull it off for free?

Didn’t even think of the G League comparison, but that’s exactly what I envision—a close, trusted pipeline. NBA teams invest just 1–3% of their budget in G League affiliates, and the return is clear. Look at Austin Reaves—developed with South Bay, now a key piece for the Lakers. Mason could see similar value from a smart JUCO pipeline.

 

[Walter]

I have to assume GM Logo Guy is not serious.

 

[Jack Strop]

I have to assume GM Logo Guy is not serious.

You know some say about assuming... right?

 

[2011WinOverVillanova]

What percentage of the direct pay to athletes do you think we’ll do? 80% to MBB 15 to WBB. 4% to Men’s soccer and 1% to other teams?

 

[GM Logo Guy]

What percentage of the direct pay to athletes do you think we’ll do? 80% to MBB 15 to WBB. 4% to Men’s soccer and 1% to other teams?

Give each sport exactly what it brings in. Sport A pulls in 100% of the revenue? Then guess what… they get 100% of the funding. Cough cough, basketball.

 

[GMUgemini]

What percentage of the direct pay to athletes do you think we’ll do? 80% to MBB 15 to WBB. 4% to Men’s soccer and 1% to other teams?

I would think baseballl would be ahead of men’s soccer

GMU Logo Guy, I’d take a look at men’s wrestling. I’m pretty sure they sell more season tickets than men’s basketball does and their alumni give at much much higher rates than men’s basketball alumni do.

 

[Pablo]

GMU Logo Guy, I’d take a look at men’s wrestling. I’m pretty sure they sell more season tickets than men’s basketball does and their alumni give at much much higher rates than men’s basketball alumni do.

Admission is free for GMU wrestling.

 

[jessej]

What percentage of the direct pay to athletes do you think we’ll do? 80% to MBB 15 to WBB. 4% to Men’s soccer and 1% to other teams?

some function of
1) revenues, profits, ticket sales, total attendance, student attendance, non-comped attendance
1a) can add in factors driven by graduation rates and academic performances

2) expect a Title IX suit to be filed at 8 am, Monday morning with some advocating a 50/50 spit between Men and Women's Programs

3) Coaches will need to develop a defensible method for sharing their NIL amount among the players
3a) i could see players with outside NIL money getting less University payment money than others - even though they are the likely stars of the team
3b) something like minimal performance, superior performance, and/or a WAR metric across all sports

 

[GM Logo Guy]

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I would think baseballl would be ahead of men’s soccer

GMU Logo Guy, I’d take a look at men’s wrestling. I’m pretty sure they sell more season tickets than men’s basketball does and their alumni give at much much higher rates than men’s basketball alumni do.

Interesting. I didn’t even know they sold season tickets.

 

[jessej]

who wrote and who signed such a poorly worded contract?
why would anyone give money to such an organization?

standard clauses?
contract ends if/when you enter the transfer portal.
contract ends if/when you refuse to play in any post season game.
Must repay funds if you transfer before the season starts.

MSN

 

[GMUgemini]

who wrote and who signed such a poorly worded contract?
why would anyone give money to such an organization?

standard clauses?
contract ends if/when you enter the transfer portal.
contract ends if/when you refuse to play in any post season game.
Must repay funds if you transfer before the season starts.

MSN

Or why the contract extended past the end of the season (he transferred in April, contract should run from August to March.

 

[jessej]

some function of
1) revenues, profits, ticket sales, total attendance, student attendance, non-comped attendance
1a) can add in factors driven by graduation rates and academic performances

2) expect a Title IX suit to be filed at 8 am, Monday morning with some advocating a 50/50 spit between Men and Women's Programs

3) Coaches will need to develop a defensible method for sharing their NIL amount among the players
3a) i could see players with outside NIL money getting less University payment money than others - even though they are the likely stars of the team
3b) something like minimal performance, superior performance, and/or a WAR metric across all sports

3 days late, but here is that lawsuit i predicted

Female Athletes Appeal House v. NCAA Settlement Approval

In the appeal, athletes argue that the terms violate Title IX, the statute governing gender equity in sports.

frontofficesports.com

 

[psyclone]

A bit "in the weeds" on what's happening in Congress with respect to the recent agreement by court and NCAA. Gift article from the Washington Post:

https://wapo.st/4kF0BV7

 

[Jack Strop]

Or why the contract extended past the end of the season (he transferred in April, contract should run from August to March.

No way. That means a player can collect through March and then transfer in April?

Incentivize a player to stay by allowing a player to be eligible to collect a chunk of cash only AFTER the transfer portal closes.

Two events can occur: 1.) The player is incentivized to remain on the team to collect guaranteed dollars in the off-season; or 2.) The player transfers and vacates claim to dollars paid in the off-season (creating a large savings to the athletic program).

Such a contractual arrangement may discourage a player from attempting to pull an "Okojie Maneuver".

 

[jessej]

House Settlement Outcomes ae becoming partially public.

UNC

The Tar Heels will provide revenue share for four sports: football, men’s basketball, women’s basketball and baseball.

“the majority of those funds will be paid to student-athletes in our two revenue-generating sports, football and men’s basketball.”

In addition, North Carolina will be increasing its scholarship allotment from 338 to 532, a massive jump.

IMO
Most athletes outside of Football and Men's BBall will not be paid significant amounts - unless they can earn NIL money from outside sources.
But the increase in scholarship allotment means that making the team in a non-revenue sport gives the athlete a good chance at free tuition.

 

[DRK331]

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Both the GMU Men's and Women's basketball teams are doing this NIL education series.

@MasonMBB and @MasonWBB on Instagram

 

[psyclone]

Developments on NIL collectives:

Commission rejecting some athlete NIL deals

The new agency in charge of regulating name, image, likeness deals in college sports sent a letter to schools Thursday saying it had rejected deals between players and donor-backed collectives formed over the past several years.

www.espn.com

"......Outside deals between athlete and sponsor are still permitted, but any worth $600 or more have to be vetted by a clearinghouse called NIL Go that was established by the new College Sports Commission.

In its letter to the ADs, the CSC said more than 1,500 deals have been cleared since NIL Go launched on June 11, "ranging in value from three figures to seven figures." More than 12,000 athletes and 1,100 institutional users have registered to use the system.

But the bulk of the letter explained that many deals could not be cleared because they did not conform to an NCAA rule that sets a "valid business purpose" standard for deals to be approved.

The letter explained that if a collective reaches a deal with an athlete to appear on behalf of the collective, which charges an admission fee, the standard is not met because the purpose of the event is to raise money to pay athletes, not to provide goods or services available to the general public for profit.

The same would apply to a deal an athlete makes to sell merchandise to raise money to pay that player because the purpose of "selling merchandise is to raise money to pay that student-athlete and potentially other student-athletes at a particular school or schools, which is not a valid business purpose" according to the NCAA rule.

A deal, however, could be approved if, for instance, the businesses paying the players had a broader purpose than simply acting as a collective. The letter uses a golf course or apparel company as examples."

 

[Pablo]

President Donald Trump to sign executive order establishing national NIL standards amid evolving legislation

This would be President Trump's latest push to establish NIL standards in college athletics

www.cbssports.com

"President Donald Trump plans to sign an executive order establishing national standards for name, image and likeness initiatives, according to CBS News. Within the past week, members of the U.S. House of Representatives introduced an amended bill called the SCORE Act (Student Compensation and Opportunity through Rights and Endorsements) aiming to 'protect the name, image, and likeness rights of student-athletes to promote fair compensation with respect to intercollegiate athletics, and for other purposes.'

The bill could open the door for federal standards for NIL legislation, superseding the current state laws that provide guidance on player compensation.

SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said Wednesday during an appearance on 'SEC This Morning' that he had no knowledge of a pending executive order."

 

[jessej]

Free Article on the Atlantic/NY Times
" What we’re hearing about college basketball budgets in revenue-sharing era: ‘Money-dump year’ "