I agree. I think he needs a second year at the same school to really hone his talents with a staff that understands his strengths and flaws. Starting over somewhere else is a mistake. But I'm no expert.
Goodbye Keyshawn Hall
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Hopefully he talks to some other players who have transferred multiple times (including Newton and Kelly). He doesn’t want to go into a Bamisile situation where he picks a school with an abusive regime or one where he just doesn’t feel like he fits in because he will be in the portal again.
I’m not sure why he didn’t think Skinn and Co could help him get to the NBA (especially considering he’s only on the NBA’s radar because of what he did here), but so be it. Whoever he’s listening to, I hope they are right and he’s not taking bad advice.
Excellent point. Has he spent more than a year anywhere since he started high school? I thought I saw that he went to 4 or 5 different high schools (maybe 1 was a prep year) and now he will have been at 3 colleges in 3 years.
While he appears to getting questionable advice, many of you are making an assumption that Tony actually wanted him back. The roster as it stands today is the way Tony wanted the roster to look at this point. People shouldn't be mad at KH for leaving, but, it would be understandable to be mad at him for the way he ended the season and the way he behaved during the year.
The list of schools who contacted Keyshawn Hall so far
The list of schools who contacted Keyshawn Hall so far
The list of schools who contacted Keyshawn Hall so far
Sounds like my ex-girlfriends.
Georgetown is SO interested in him that they are listed twice.
Georgetown has a lot of holes to fill. Cloning Keyshawn might be attractive.
Lesson learned, don’t recruit players who jump so frequently regardless of talent.
Dude would get bodied at any major level. Hes soft honestly and has a sporadic motor. I’m glad he’s gone. Dribbles high and loose, has two moves that good defenses shut down.
We have such a strange fanbase in that we always seem to underestimate players leaving our program. Josh won't be able to bang with bigs in the Big East, Jordan won't be able to play PF in the ACC, there were folks that even thought Luke wouldn't see the court at Louisville.
We can criticize KH on his way out the door and rightfully question his dedication to the team, but he's an elite scorer and will be able to put up points in any league he plays in. I hope the rest of his game and attitude matures wherever he winds up next.
We can criticize KH on his way out the door and rightfully question his dedication to the team, but he's an elite scorer and will be able to put up points in any league he plays in. I hope the rest of his game and attitude matures wherever he winds up next.
Josh, Luke, and Jordan were character guys. KH is a zero compared to those 3.
There's plenty of really talented basketball players without much character out there. Just saying that we have a weird habit of downplaying our players' abilities when they decide to move on.
It’s called spite - and I accept a certain amount of it on my part
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I mean thats why every recruit we get is going to be A10 player of the year too
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TheHoosier - Report: IU contacts All-Conference transfers Keyshawn Hall, Marques Warrick
The Hoosiers have reportedly shown interest in a pair of All-Conference transfers, Keyshawn Hall and Marques Warrick.
indiana.rivals.com
"Iowa State, UCLA, Xavier, BYU and Arkansas are just a handful of the other teams that have reportedly shown interest in transfer wing. Hall has at least two years of eligibility remaining."
Good point. I think the tendency is to assume the higher conference teams are so much better than us. I think that leads to the assumption that if he gets X in the A10, he will only get something like .5X in a P5 conference. Combine that with us knowing the weaknesses of our own players so well and assuming that will hinder them more than it actually does. Probably battered fan syndrome at play here (plus some spite to boot).
I had concerns about how well Josh would do at Providence, but, I think not being the overwhelmingly #1 guy on the floor and not being double or even triple teamed all the time allowed him to thrive. It was probably a similar situation for your other examples.
I think KH will be an interesting case to follow. As others have noted, some of the issues are less physical skill and more, let's say, attitude. If not being the #1 guy is what allowed the others to thrive, how will his attitude adjust to not being the #1 guy. Maybe he could still be the #1 guy, but #2 won't be so far behind him (or vice versa).
Like I said, it will be interesting to see how it pans out. I don't think I'll be doing as much of it in person, though, as I did with Josh and Ticket...
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College basketball transfer portal rankings: Who are the best men’s players on the move?
35 Keyshawn Hall
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George Mason
"Ht: 6-7 Wt: 230
Hall is a fascinating player. After weighing nearly 300 pounds in high school, Hall is now down to the 230-pound range and added real shiftiness to his game. He averaged 16.6 points and 8.1 rebounds per game and was named second-team All-Atlantic-10 last season.
His shot profile is highly specific. Of his 273 halfcourt shot attempts last season, 107 were 3-pointers, 120 were at the rim and zero were dunks, per Synergy. Even with his weight loss, he still doesn’t have a ton of bounce. Instead, he’s an undersized 4 with guard skills who repeatedly drove to the rim from behind the arc or the mid-post. Most of his nominal post-up opportunities turned into face-up drives. His handle in these situations is creative, as he strings together a lot of different crossovers and spin moves.
He countered his desire to get to the rim by catching and firing from distance when those shot became available. He has a strange lefty stroke where his left leg flares forward, but he did drill nearly 36 percent of his four 3-point attempts per game.
While Hall can get to the rim at the A-10 level, his efficiency dropped drastically against good teams. He went 3-for-13 against Tennessee, 1-for-5 against Toledo, 4-for-13 against Tulane, 1-for-4 against Richmond, 3-for-11 against Dayton and 2-for-7 against Loyola Chicago. Can his game translate to the high-major level? Can he consistently finish below the rim against better competition? Will his shot continue to fall?
He’d be an interesting target for a school who already has shooters and is looking for more frontcourt shot creation. — Sam Vecenie"
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