2025-26 Preseason Rankings

[jessej]

Dog Days of August
while we await the release of the full schedule and partial season ticket pricing
thought this would be a better discussion instead of when Mason is getting a D-1 Football Program

with free transfers and players moving teams for better pay, there is a large degree of uncertainty

from barttorvik.com

Rk	Team
51	vcu
59	George Washington
79	Saint Louis
89	Loyola Chicago
97	Dayton
99	Saint Joseph's
102	George Mason
112	Duquesne
129	Richmond
136	St. Bonaventure
152	Fordham
161	Davidson
163	Rhode Island
200	La Salle

 

[jessej]

from KenPom

2025 Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings

ranking at the start of the year is based on the ranking at the end of the previous season
so initially it is pretty bad - but self-correcting over the season as new information/game results aer added in

Rk	Team
34	vcu 11
77	Dayton
79	George Mason
85	Saint Joseph's
107	Loyola Chicago
121	Saint Louis
123	St. Bonaventure
128	George Washington
140	Duquesne
147	Davidson
157	Rhode Island
222	Massachusetts
229	La Salle
237	Fordham
247	Richmond

 

[jessej]

Jeff Sagarin

maybe the original of the analytic approach
no longer publicly available
and i don't have a membership
but it can be found on the sport reference data site
and it has the same problems as the KenPom Data

2024-25 Men's College Basketball School Ratings | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

2024-25 Men's College Basketball Season Summary and More About College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

www.sports-reference.com

		Net Rating
1	Dayton	11.9
2	George Mason	10.95
3	Saint Joseph's	10.7
4	Loyola (IL)	5
5	St. Bonaventure	4.81
6	Saint Louis	4.71
7	George Washington	3.39
8	Duquesne	2.04
9	Davidson	1.87
10	Rhode Island	1.29
11	Massachusetts	-4.42
12	La Salle	-4.86
13	Fordham	-6.44
14	Richmond	-8.29

 

[hoopsjunkie75]

Jeff Sagarin

maybe the original of the analytic approach
no longer publicly available
and i don't have a membership
but it can be found on the sport reference data site
and it has the same problems as the KenPom Data

2024-25 Men's College Basketball School Ratings | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

2024-25 Men's College Basketball Season Summary and More About College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

www.sports-reference.com

		Net Rating
1	Dayton	11.9
2	George Mason	10.95
3	Saint Joseph's	10.7
4	Loyola (IL)	5
5	St. Bonaventure	4.81
6	Saint Louis	4.71
7	George Washington	3.39
8	Duquesne	2.04
9	Davidson	1.87
10	Rhode Island	1.29
11	Massachusetts	-4.42
12	La Salle	-4.86
13	Fordham	-6.44
14	Richmond	-8.29

Was VCpoo left off of this list intentionally? Or am I missing something here?

 

[psyclone]

Was VCpoo left off of this list intentionally? Or am I missing something here?

vcu 21.60

 

[Patriotsince81]

@jessej Thanks for posting, it's always interesting to see various predictions/prognostications. Given the day and age we live in with the portal and NIL I will confidently predict we finish first, or 14th, or anywhere in-between in A10 play.

 

[jessej]

9/10/25

 

[jessej]

A-10 has requested that the conference not be considered as a Mid-Major;
yet here we are

 

[jessej]

A-10 has requested that the conference not be considered as a Mid-Major;
yet here we are

 

[Portlandian]

'"If not mid-major, why mid-major shaped?''

 

[jessej]

Matthew Winick
@matthewwinick
Sep 21

The Top 25 non-Power 5 teams in my depth chart rankings:

1. Gonzaga
2. San Diego St
3. Saint Mary's
4. Saint Louis
5. Dayton
6. San Francisco
7. South Florida
8. Boise State
9. George Washington
10. Loyola Chicago
11. Utah State
12. vcu
13. Grand Canyon
14. Liberty
15. Illinois State
16. Memphis
17. New Mexico
18. Santa Clara
19. UC Irvine
20. George Mason
21. UC Santa Barbara
22. Bradley
23. St. Bonaventure
24. Duquesne
25. Yale

 

[jessej]

 

[GMUgemini]

I’m a little surprised we are picked 4th there. So many people have been talking up GW and Loyola.

If Davidson finishes that low, I’m not sure how much leash McKellips the younger will have left.

St. Joes losing their coach late, I’m going to say they aren’t finishing that high. Probably bottom half. Maybe Donohue knocks it out of the park, but I have my doubts.

 

[jessej]

I’m a little surprised we are picked 4th there. So many people have been talking up GW and Loyola.

If Davidson finishes that low, I’m not sure how much leash McKellips the younger will have left.

St. Joes losing their coach late, I’m going to say they aren’t finishing that high. Probably bottom half. Maybe Donohue knocks it out of the park, but I have my doubts.

look at the author - Philly Bias

 

[jessej]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFbipSTulCA

Predictions start at 40:00

5. GMU
4. L-C
3. vcu
2. Dayton
1. GWU

 

[NewPatriot]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFbipSTulCA

Predictions start at 40:00

5. GMU
4. L-C
3. vcu
2. Dayton
1. GW

I am disappointed in the post caster's analysis.

He basically pulled nams off each poster without any situational analysis.

Example: 'Dayton Jordan Derkack suffered a bit.of a setback the previous year transferring from Merrimack to Rutgers'.

He didn't explain that Derkack was brought in as a backup PG to NBA lottery pick Dylan Harper..of course he going to see a drop off in minutes"

If you are gonna be a podcaster with college basketball SME level expertise..you better come with the goods..

 

[GMUgemini]

George Washington at 1st is a bold prediction.

I think us being just outside too 4 makes sense to me. I have us somewhere around 6th

 

[Portlandian]

Just get top 4--double bye and a chance.