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NewPatriot

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Top One-Year Turnarounds in College Basketball:
  • Miami (FL) (2025–26): Under a new coaching staff, Miami transformed from a 24-loss team to a 24-win team in a single season.
  • Kennesaw State (2022-23): Under Amir Abdur-Rahim, went from 1 win to 26 wins and an NCAA Tournament appearance.
  • Kansas State (2022-23): Jerome Tang turned a 14-17 team into a 26-10 Elite Eight run, a +12 win jump.
  • Nevada (2015-16): Eric Musselman led a 24-14 record following a 9-22 season, a +15 win improvement.
  • Washington State (2006-07): Tony Bennett turned a 11-17 team into a 26-8 squad, a +15 win improvement.

You've made a disparate list of of schools with one year turnarounds. Some of which are power conference school pre portal era roster were consistent and no turnover. Some of which came at the beginning of the portal era like Kansas state the portal volume was about 1/2 of last year and price for roster construction was fraction of last year.

None of these which apply to Mason because the Patriots were coming off two back to back 20 win seasons when Tony came in
 
You've made a disparate list of of schools with one year turnarounds. Some of which are power conference school pre portal era roster were consistent and no turnover. Some of which came at the beginning of the portal era like Kansas state the portal volume was about 1/2 of last year and price for roster construction was fraction of last year.

None of these which apply to Mason because the Patriots were coming off two back to back 20 win seasons when Tony came in
It shouldn’t take 16 years for a turnaround.
 

Mason2005

All-American
GIVING DAY 2023
The time is now for Mason to go all in on Tony and give him everything he needs for NIL. Going into his 4th season here, he has proven he can coach to a near conf title with bottom half NIL. There is no point in Mason giving him that top tier contract extension if they won't give him the NIL he needs also. Find the money Mason. It'd be a shame for Tony to leave eventually with Mason never giving him what he needed.
 

DRK331

All-Conference
The time is now for Mason to go all in on Tony and give him everything he needs for NIL. Going into his 4th season here, he has proven he can coach to a near conf title with bottom half NIL. There is no point in Mason giving him that top tier contract extension if they won't give him the NIL he needs also. Find the money Mason. It'd be a shame for Tony to leave eventually with Mason never giving him what he needed.

Agreed, also here is where Mason fans can donate to Mason Athletics:

 

gmujim92

Hall of Famer
GIVING DAY 2023
The time is now for Mason to go all in on Tony and give him everything he needs for NIL. Going into his 4th season here, he has proven he can coach to a near conf title with bottom half NIL. There is no point in Mason giving him that top tier contract extension if they won't give him the NIL he needs also. Find the money Mason. It'd be a shame for Tony to leave eventually with Mason never giving him what he needed.
This times a billion. If they’re not gonna do it for a Mason legend, they may as well disband the program b/c we’re never gonna get where we want to go in this era by pinching pennies. He’s too good a coach and Mason is too big to be satisfied with just hanging around the fringe of relevance.
 

mkaufman1

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GIVING DAY 2023
This times a billion. If they’re not gonna do it for a Mason legend, they may as well disband the program b/c we’re never gonna get where we want to go in this era by pinching pennies. He’s too good a coach and Mason is too big to be satisfied with just hanging around the fringe of relevance.
I completely agree. We ponied up for Tony contract wise at 1.8, so now its time to build rosters that are competitive as well.
 

NewPatriot

Starter
It shouldn’t take 16 years for a turnaround.
One year turn arounds are the rare exception; that is why you could only list a handful of examples over two decades to support your case.

Its ironic that you listed Jeremy Tang and Kansas St because he just got canned for not being able to maintain his initial level of success.

Look at Providence, Georgetown and Maryland now right now. Look at Penn state, Rutgers..Depaul..Fordham.. Lasalle..and St. Bonaventure...

Be grateful for what you have..there but by the grace of God...you could be an alum at any of those other schools.

Im not saying you shouldn't be disappointed..I hated the collapse too..just that view this situation with some perspective.
 

Patriot Lawdog

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I ask this truly as a question with no ulterior motives...Do we truly have the funds to spend? If we do then I'm in 100% agreement. If it means we have to up student fees or find another way to do it outside of donor funds then, of course, I'd say do it, BUT do we have the political capital to pull this off? What I mean, and my view is not having lived there for 25+ years, is do people not in the Mason sphere want Mason to still be a "cheap" option open to all VA students? And would this block our goals of having more money to spend on athletics? I feel like I've heard for years that we've wanted things like this, but people outside of Mason (think political world) want to "keep us in our place" in the state.
 

gmujim92

Hall of Famer
GIVING DAY 2023
I ask this truly as a question with no ulterior motives...Do we truly have the funds to spend? If we do then I'm in 100% agreement. If it means we have to up student fees or find another way to do it outside of donor funds then, of course, I'd say do it, BUT do we have the political capital to pull this off? What I mean, and my view is not having lived there for 25+ years, is do people not in the Mason sphere want Mason to still be a "cheap" option open to all VA students? And would this block our goals of having more money to spend on athletics? I feel like I've heard for years that we've wanted things like this, but people outside of Mason (think political world) want to "keep us in our place" in the state.
Affordability of higher education has been a statewide concern among elected folks, not just at Mason, and increasing student fees would be politically unpopular when kids are graduating with crushing debt loads. As someone who is paying off ~$150k of my daughter’s loans from a Va state school, I get it.

But if you’re going to compete in a league like the A-10, not having the funds to build a championship-caliber roster is silly. What sense does it make to pay the HC (who deserves every penny) almost $2M a year and then give him middle of the pack rev share money?

Tony has squeezed every drop of potential from the last two teams in winning 50 games. If Mason doesn’t have the cash to afford a $5M roster like Caputo just squandered, they need to figure out how to raise it. If that requires hard decisions, that’s why the president and AD get paid — it’s literally their job. Otherwise Tony is just wasting his time here.
 

Patriot Lawdog

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Affordability of higher education has been a statewide concern among elected folks, not just at Mason, and increasing student fees would be politically unpopular when kids are graduating with crushing debt loads. As someone who is paying off ~$150k of my daughter’s loans from a Va state school, I get it.

But if you’re going to compete in a league like the A-10, not having the funds to build a championship-caliber roster is silly. What sense does it make to pay the HC (who deserves every penny) almost $2M a year and then give him middle of the pack rev share money?

Tony has squeezed every drop of potential from the last two teams in winning 50 games. If Mason doesn’t have the cash to afford a $5M roster like Caputo just squandered, they need to figure out how to raise it. If that requires hard decisions, that’s why the president and AD get paid — it’s literally their job. Otherwise Tony is just wasting his time here.
But isn't this talking out both sides of our mouths. We all know T. Boone Pickens ain't walkin' through that door to fund our athletics budget. People say we should seek funding from businesses, but those business leaders aren't in those positions because they just throw around money without clear objectives. They want to see a return on their investment. Usually, the funding comes about as a combination of leaders within that business seeing a return and, usually more importantly, that business leader having a strong connection to the school (usually an alum). It's tough to build a donation base when you don't have that built in alum network at the higher levels within the business community. I think we're getting there, but the school is still not in that mature stage. I guess I'd be less irritated by the "let's not raise fees" crowd if I hadn't heard of other VA schools (see JMU, ODU, vcu) doing it to help athletics.
 

Pablo

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Look at Providence, Georgetown and Maryland now right now. Look at Penn state, Rutgers..Depaul..Fordham.. Lasalle..and St. Bonaventure...

Be grateful for what you have..there but by the grace of God...you could be an alum at any of those other schools.

As the only Penn State alum on this board, I must take offense to this! BTW, Penn State has more A-10 men's basketball tournament championships than GMU has.
 
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GMU79

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GIVING DAY 2023
Mason has a student population of 40,000. To fund $5M they just have to increase fees by $125. Split that in 2 per semester and you have $62.50. Do it Mason. Actually let's do a $10M NIL.
I went for $400.00 per semester. At the time that was a lot. My most expensive textbook (hardback) was $12.95 I think.
 

gmujim92

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GIVING DAY 2023
Mason has a student population of 40,000. To fund $5M they just have to increase fees by $125. Split that in 2 per semester and you have $62.50. Do it Mason. Actually let's do a $10M NIL.
This makes too much sense not to do it. You could increase the fee by $150 a semester, allocate all of the $ to basketball NIL/rev share and nobody would even notice. An additional $300 a year is a drop in the bucket given the cost of tuition/room and board, but it would make a massive difference for the basketball programs’ ability to recruit championship-caliber rosters.
 

GMUgemini

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For those who keep advocating for increasing student fees, did Virginia repeal the law limiting how much a school can subsidize their athletics department with student fees? And if not, aren’t we pretty close to maxing out already?
 

gmujim92

Hall of Famer
GIVING DAY 2023
For those who keep advocating for increasing student fees, did Virginia repeal the law limiting how much a school can subsidize their athletics department with student fees? And if not, aren’t we pretty close to maxing out already?
I don’t remember the exact number, but it seems unlikely an additional $300 a year would push us over. Not like we’re talking about $1,000 per student.
 

Mason2005

All-American
GIVING DAY 2023
Mason charges $1,914 for students taking 12-15 credits, $159 per credit taken and $159 per credit above 15. Optimistically, they are collecting $77M yearly from these fees. They probably don't even need to raise fees to fund NIL, just allocate the money differently. There is also no cap on how much a public VA college can charge.

The Mandatory Student Fee supports the maintenance of facilities and buildings, auxiliary services, intercollegiate athletics, campus shuttle, academic services, student activities, and health services.
 
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