NIL Thread

[jessej]

This is a mess
Very easy to understand why "rich" coaches are retiring

College basketball commitments plummet amid big changes in recruiting: 'Nobody knows what to do right now'

With only six of the top 50 Class of 2026 prospects committed to a school, coaches and agents are in a recruiting stalemate

www.cbssports.com

 

[Patriotsince81]

Beating the same dead horse for 56 pages. Imagine an NBA, NFL, or MLB where every player is an unrestricted free agent every year. That's what we have in college basketball. Greed is not good in sports. NFL rookie contracts are for 4 years. NBA rookie contracts are for 4 years. MLB rookie contracts have team control for 6 years. Why not the same for college?

I hate, wrong thread, knowing that if Booker and Kanga are any good they'll be gone after this year. I hate having 8 or 9 new guys every year. I hate paying kids who have no life skills or career skills to play a freaking game. I hate that integrity, commitment, and sacrifice have become foreign concepts in our society.

Getting off my soapbox. Now get off my f&cking lawn.

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[GSII]

Seems like the plan is to work up to $3 million per year over the next 3 years. So potentially, 1, 2, 3 or something like that.

The money comes from the school/athletic department. They will take a slice of their revenue and distribute it to players.

A few weeks ago, I asked where my dollars could make the most impact. I was told that a new initiative was being developed and that it would be where I should focus if my primary interest was supporting basketball. It was recently rolled out in Marvin's latest newsletter: Hopefully there's more communication/education on the horizon.

Power Basketball Greatness

To seize the opportunities to elevate our basketball programs to the highest level, we must invest now. That’s why we’re launching the Power Basketball Greatness Initiative—a cornerstone of our athletics case for support within the university’s $1 billion comprehensive Mason Now: Power the Possible fundraising campaign.

Our goal: $500,000 by June 30, 2025.

This initiative ensures that George Mason Basketball thrives, consistently contending for A-10 championships and regularly making NCAA postseason berths. Your investment today strengthens our ability to:

• Recruit and retain top-tier student-athletes and coaches.
• Enhance facilities and resources for sustained success.
• Keep George Mason at the forefront of A-10 basketball dominance.

https://securemason.gmu.edu/s/1564/GID2/16/19-giving.aspx?sid=1564&gid=2&pgid=651&cid=1709&sort=1&bledit=1&dids=847&appealcode=25AT8

Bumping this response as it provides some clarity to where that 3 Mill comes from and when.

 

[Pablo]

Georgia seeks $390K from DE Damon Wilson for transfer damages

Georgia's athletic department is headed to court to try to obtain $390,000 in damages from a former standout defensive end who transferred from the school after his sophomore season in a potentially precedent-setting case.

www.espn.com

"Georgia's athletic department is headed to court to try to obtain $390,000 in damages from a former standout defensive end who transferred from the school after his sophomore season in a potentially precedent-setting case.

The Bulldogs have asked a judge to force former defensive end Damon Wilson, currently the top pass rusher on Missouri's defensive line, to enter into arbitration to settle a clause in his former contract that serves effectively as a buyout fee for exiting his deal early. Wilson played for Georgia as a freshman and sophomore before transferring to Missouri in January, two weeks after signing a new deal with Georgia's Classic City Collective.

Many schools and collectives have started to include liquidated damages clauses in their contracts with athletes to protect their investment in players and deter transfers. Georgia is one of the first programs to publicly try to enforce the clause by filing suit against a player."

 

[Jack Strop]

Georgia seeks $390K from DE Damon Wilson for transfer damages

Georgia's athletic department is headed to court to try to obtain $390,000 in damages from a former standout defensive end who transferred from the school after his sophomore season in a potentially precedent-setting case.

www.espn.com

"Georgia's athletic department is headed to court to try to obtain $390,000 in damages from a former standout defensive end who transferred from the school after his sophomore season in a potentially precedent-setting case.

The Bulldogs have asked a judge to force former defensive end Damon Wilson, currently the top pass rusher on Missouri's defensive line, to enter into arbitration to settle a clause in his former contract that serves effectively as a buyout fee for exiting his deal early. Wilson played for Georgia as a freshman and sophomore before transferring to Missouri in January, two weeks after signing a new deal with Georgia's Classic City Collective.

Many schools and collectives have started to include liquidated damages clauses in their contracts with athletes to protect their investment in players and deter transfers. Georgia is one of the first programs to publicly try to enforce the clause by filing suit against a player."

Players have too much power. Need to even things out a bit. Go UGA! *RUFF! RUFF!* SIC 'EM!!!

 

[jessej]

getting crazier by the day

$5M for one player and he wants to leave for $6M

PFSN

Demond Williams Jr. signed a near-$5 million NIL deal with Washington on Friday. By Tuesday night, he announced his intention to enter the transfer portal.

Now the Huskies are preparing legal action.

Sources told ESPN's Pete Thamel that Washington will pursue all avenues to enforce Williams' contract. The agreement, built on a Big Ten template, states the school isn't obligated to enter him into the portal or assist his transfer in any way.

The implications are massive. One prominent NIL attorney told OutKick the quiet part out loud: programs now have legitimate contracts and legitimate attorneys from major universities. The stakes are larger, which means the liability is greater.

Williams' production justifies the chaos. He threw for 3,065 yards and 25 touchdowns as a sophomore while adding 611 rushing yards and six scores. LSU is reportedly willing to offer $6 million — more than a dozen NFL starters made this past season.

Williams originally committed to Ole Miss in 2022 when Lane Kiffin was coaching the Rebels. That relationship never faded.

Washington is also investigating potential tampering by other schools. We've seen this playbook before — Wisconsin sued Miami last June under similar circumstances. That case is still ongoing.

What happens next could set the precedent for every NIL dispute that follows.

 

[GMU79]

getting crazier by the day

$5M for one player and he wants to leave for $6M

PFSN

Demond Williams Jr. signed a near-$5 million NIL deal with Washington on Friday. By Tuesday night, he announced his intention to enter the transfer portal.

Now the Huskies are preparing legal action.

Sources told ESPN's Pete Thamel that Washington will pursue all avenues to enforce Williams' contract. The agreement, built on a Big Ten template, states the school isn't obligated to enter him into the portal or assist his transfer in any way.

The implications are massive. One prominent NIL attorney told OutKick the quiet part out loud: programs now have legitimate contracts and legitimate attorneys from major universities. The stakes are larger, which means the liability is greater.

Williams' production justifies the chaos. He threw for 3,065 yards and 25 touchdowns as a sophomore while adding 611 rushing yards and six scores. LSU is reportedly willing to offer $6 million — more than a dozen NFL starters made this past season.

Williams originally committed to Ole Miss in 2022 when Lane Kiffin was coaching the Rebels. That relationship never faded.

Washington is also investigating potential tampering by other schools. We've seen this playbook before — Wisconsin sued Miami last June under similar circumstances. That case is still ongoing.

What happens next could set the precedent for every NIL dispute that follows.

The love of money is the root of all evil.

 

[Where's the party?]

Been sayin it for a while - on every front, this doesn't end well.

 

[GSII]

How could it change NIL? Are the contacts even enforcable?

 

[jessej]

How could it change NIL? Are the contacts even enforcable?

The Legal System will decide.

 

[GSII]

The Legal System will decide.

Obviously, but what are the current arguement arising for or against certain aspects of controling the Wild Wild West we are in.

 

[Leesburg Chankenstank III]

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/v3ozPoEUL5M?si=CfqgsOAAnRaM3j7P

 

[Leesburg Chankenstank III]

Indiana has proven it can win at the highest level of major college sports without breaking the bank on 5 star or even 4 star recruits. Below is a copy and paste of a great post online:

“Indiana head coach Curt Cignetti is a legend, and it's not just because he won the school their first-ever national title.

It's because of how he did it.

Turning a football program traditionally known to be one of the worst in the country is one thing.

But Cignetti did it without the benefit of a single 5-star recruit.

Let us repeat that...there is not even ONE 5-star recruit on Indiana's entire roster.

In fact, there are only eight 4-star recruits.

That's low for non-Power 5 schools, much less a team in the Big Ten that just won a natty.

Check out the total of 4 and 5-star recruits on the rosters of the other three teams in this year's Final Four.

Oregon - 55
Miami - 45
Ole Miss - 36
Indiana - 8

What's even more incredible is that only TWO of Indiana's eight 4-star recruits are starters.

One is a 5th-year senior offensive lineman, and the second is their punter.

This will go down as one of the most improbably national championships in NCAA history for many reasons.

But no other stat embodies this team's journey more.”

 

[GMU79]

Indiana has proven it can win at the highest level of major college sports without breaking the bank on 5 star or even 4 star recruits. Below is a copy and paste of a great post online:

“Indiana head coach Curt Cignetti is a legend, and it's not just because he won the school their first-ever national title.

It's because of how he did it.

Turning a football program traditionally known to be one of the worst in the country is one thing.

But Cignetti did it without the benefit of a single 5-star recruit.

Let us repeat that...there is not even ONE 5-star recruit on Indiana's entire roster.

In fact, there are only eight 4-star recruits.

That's low for non-Power 5 schools, much less a team in the Big Ten that just won a natty.

Check out the total of 4 and 5-star recruits on the rosters of the other three teams in this year's Final Four.

Oregon - 55
Miami - 45
Ole Miss - 36
Indiana - 8

What's even more incredible is that only TWO of Indiana's eight 4-star recruits are starters.

One is a 5th-year senior offensive lineman, and the second is their punter.

This will go down as one of the most improbably national championships in NCAA history for many reasons.

But no other stat embodies this team's journey more.”

I was born in Indiana 8 decades ago. GO HOOSIERS!!

 

[FlPatriot]

Not directly NIL related but an interesting read:

Why the Charles Bediako case could unleash chaos on college basketball, NBA Draft

If Bediako can return to Alabama after declaring for the draft three years ago, major impacts will be felt at all levels of basketball.

www.nytimes.com

 

[FlPatriot]

Former NBA player Amari Bailey pursuing landmark college basketball return

College basketball faces another question about eligibility — this time from a player who played in NBA games.

www.nytimes.com

This just gets crazier. I think Tony should go after LeBron.

 

[jessej]

Former NBA player Amari Bailey pursuing landmark college basketball return

College basketball faces another question about eligibility — this time from a player who played in NBA games.

www.nytimes.com

This just gets crazier. I think Tony should go after LeBron.

Jr. has more future upside than Dad

 

[GMU79]

Former NBA player Amari Bailey pursuing landmark college basketball return

College basketball faces another question about eligibility — this time from a player who played in NBA games.

www.nytimes.com

This just gets crazier. I think Tony should go after LeBron.

Bailey does have a point. But yes, this is all getting very crazy and out of control.

 

[Leesburg Chankenstank III]

Recruiting failed nba prospects may be the new frontier

 

[FlPatriot]

Recruiting failed nba prospects may be the new frontier

Would appear the whole educational aspect of this has been lost. Being a mid-major at what point does the university jettison the AD and get back to its primary business?