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gmujim92

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Realistically there was no way Mason was gonna be able to retain Mincy, Long and BOC and have any $ left over for the rest of the roster.

If Tony is able to keep the two guards along with Riley, Kanga and Booker, that’s a great place to start for next season.

Tons of combo guards and forwards will be available in the portal and I’m sure the staff will find us some good ones.
 

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Realistically there was no way Mason was gonna be able to retain Mincy, Long and BOC and have any $ left over for the rest of the roster.

If Tony is able to keep the two guards along with Riley, Kanga and Booker, that’s a great place to start for next season.

Tons of combo guards and forwards will be available in the portal and I’m sure the staff will find us some good ones.
I’ve got no insight into how our NIL/rev share money is spent, but I wonder if it makes the most sense to do something exactly like that. Give the vast bulk of your money to 3-4 guys you know are going to fit well together and put up numbers, and take flyers on everyone else and see who hits.
 

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I’ve got no insight into how our NIL/rev share money is spent, but I wonder if it makes the most sense to do something exactly like that. Give the vast bulk of your money to 3-4 guys you know are going to fit well together and put up numbers, and take flyers on everyone else and see who hits.
I still like the idea of getting some rich Ivy league players who dont need money but can shoot 40% from 3pt land. Then giving the money to 3 or 4 studs.
 

gmujim92

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I’ve got no insight into how our NIL/rev share money is spent, but I wonder if it makes the most sense to do something exactly like that. Give the vast bulk of your money to 3-4 guys you know are going to fit well together and put up numbers, and take flyers on everyone else and see who hits.
I think the stars have mostly aligned to do that this year because of Brayden’s injury and Jahari’s relationship with Tony … otherwise both probably could’ve gotten more money on the open market than we could afford to pay. Honestly that’s probably true for any of the guys if they choose to stay other than Booker.
 
Just my thoughts on Kory at a higher level- I think this is a fair analysis of him as a player:

Mincy has the real potential to be a high level scoring threat at any level. Shot is good, the scoring IQ is high. There are concerns defensively, and at 6’1, he’s not necessarily got the speed to deal with higher level athleticism. Also a little concerned when he started settling for the mid rangers (even before the thumb injury) in conference play instead of getting to the hoop and the elite foul drawing he showed in non conference play. Sometimes makes a great pass and sometimes makes some horrific decisions. May pan out more as an undersized two guard. Very high ceiling here, especially in terms of three level scoring, if it can be realized.
 

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I still like the idea of getting some rich Ivy league players who dont need money but can shoot 40% from 3pt land. Then giving the money to 3 or 4 studs.
Yeah that's not how Tony's system works at all. Need tough grinders who will play hard nose defense. Not the right fit for Tony at all. While it could work in a different system and different coach I don't see that going over well. Play defense or don't play. Maybe there's the odd one who fits that mold but that seems like a needle in the haystack.
 

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I wonder if CTS has the same rule as Calipari. Go into portal? You ain't coming back.
 

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I still like the idea of getting some rich Ivy league players who dont need money but can shoot 40% from 3pt land. Then giving the money to 3 or 4 studs.
Why would someone from Ivy come for a Mason diploma? I know most players aren't going for the paper but someone from Ivy probably will be.
 

Masonfan3

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Why would someone from Ivy come for a Mason diploma? I know most players aren't going for the paper but someone from Ivy probably will be.
Do you really think these guys are thinking about the name of the school on their diploma? Plus, depending on the major, Mason is very respectable nationwide. Not Ivy League, but very respectable.
 

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The biggest problem I have with Skinn is tha he overplayed Long and Mincy at 34 PPG with little or no substitution and wore them out physically by the last third of the season.

There was no excuse for playing Mincy with a severely injured to the point where his thumb , as some suggested here, was dangling from his hand in the NIT.

In most programs, the medical staff evaluation drives the coach decision to play someone. What happened here?

O'onnor, Hill, Adebayo and other players were given a chance to heal on injured reserve throughout the season.

What happened in Mincy's case?
 

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The biggest problem I have with Skinn is tha he overplayed Long and Mincy at 34 PPG with little or no substitution and wore them out physically by the last third of the season.

There was no excuse for playing Mincy with a severely injured to the point where his thumb , as some suggested here, was dangling from his hand in the NIT.

In most programs, the medical staff evaluation drives the coach decision to play someone. What happened here?

O'onnor, Hill, Adebayo and other players were given a chance to heal on injured reserve throughout the season.

What happened in Mincy's case?
NO way he played against Doctors orders. The injury wasn't as bad. It was dangling gushing blood type scenario...lol. Ligament or muscle tear i would guess. He is tough and obviously wanted to play. Was he wanting to play so he could show his next school how tough he is? Probably.
 

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NO way he played against Doctors orders.

Correct. Playing against doctor's orders is not going to happen. There are still protective layers beneath that—trainers, coaches, and even lawyers.

In 2002-03 an awesome Mason player named Darren Tarver was told that he could no longer play for Mason because of a heart ailment that nearly killed him during a summer pick-up game at the field house. He was evaluated by doctors and cleared to play months later, the heart ailment was resolved.

But, this was only a few years after Hank Gathers of LMU collapsed and died during a conference tournament game. Apparently, coaches knew of his heart ailment (similar to Tarver's), but were accused of discounting it and encouraging Gathers to play anyway, some saying that staff influenced Gathers to cut back on his heart medication during games to increase performance. Interestingly enough, it was the demise of Paul Westhead at LMU and what eventually sent him to coach at Mason.

With the memory of the Gathers "scandal" still relatively fresh, there was no way that Mason would allow Tarver to play. Tarver finished his career with two seasons in DII (or DIII) without incident—no one from DI would touch him. DI schools were worried about the "Hank Gathers Effect" and couldn't stomach the risk of having a similar event occur to them and Tarver.

[Note: If someone here has a better account or memory of this story please correct me if I have misstated or misrepresented some facts.][/s]
 
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psyclone

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Correct. Playing against doctor's orders is not going to happen. There are still protective layers beneath that—trainers, coaches, and even lawyers.

In 2002-03 an awesome Mason player named Darren Tarver was told that he could no longer play for Mason because of a heart ailment that nearly killed him during a summer pick-up game at the field house. He was evaluated by doctors and cleared to play months later, the heart ailment was resolved.

But, this was only a few years after Hank Gathers of LMU collapsed and died during a conference tournament game. Apparently, coaches knew of his heart ailment (similar to Tarver's), but were accused of discounting it and encouraging Gathers to play anyway, some saying that staff influenced Gathers to cut back on his heart medication during games to increase performance. Interestingly enough, it was the demise of Paul Westhead at LMU and what eventually sent him to coach at Mason.

With the memory of the Gathers "scandal" still relatively fresh, there was no way that Mason would allow Tarver to play. Tarver finished his career with two seasons in DII (or DIII) without incident—no one from DI would touch him. DI schools were worried about the "Hank Gathers Effect" and couldn't stomach the risk of having a similar event occur to them and Tarver.

[Note: If someone here has a better account or memory of this story please correct me if I have misstated or misrepresented some facts.][/s]
Good summary of what I vaguely remembered as well.
Meanwhile, I found this online:

Dave Bever, mentioned in the article as rescuing Tarver, was on the PE faculty for many years, retiring sometime around 2012. I remember seeing him in the RAC when he promoted the idea of boxing as a way of staying in shape.
 
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