NCAA trying to kill the NIT

[GMUgemini]

New format for the NIT:

No more automatic qualifiers from conference champions. Instead top two NET teams each from ACC, BE, Big 12, Big 10, PAC 12, and SEC (regardless of win-loss record) will automatically qualify and be guaranteed to host first round game.

This, of course, is in addition to moving the semifinals and finals away from MSG (will be held at Hinkle Fieldhouse this season).

I call this a massive blech on team selection and just way too much deference yet again to the big money conferences.

 

[mkaufman1]

Bullshit. All of this.

 

[ephoops]

Just awful.

 

[JC_FoodcourtBandit]

FKE is absolutely thrilled with these changes

 

[GMUSSTN]

If you think the P6 conferences aren't seething to turn the NIT into the "mid major" tournament and make the national championship exclusive P6 schools you're being naive. And I have absolutely no faith in the NCAA not kowtow to their every whim. They'll claim that "more" people watch the NIT this way and use it as an excuse to do away with auto-bids to the NCAAT in favor of just using the top 64 NET to populate the field.

 

[GMUgemini]

If you think the P6 conferences aren't seething to turn the NIT into the "mid major" tournament and make the national championship exclusive P6 schools you're being naive. And I have absolutely no faith in the NCAA not kowtow to their every whim. They'll claim that "more" people watch the NIT this way and use it as an excuse to do away with auto-bids to the NCAAT in favor of just using the top 64 NET to populate the field.

Would have been 17/68 teams that weren’t P6 last year…

And they’ll manipulate the formula to make it even harder for non-P6 teams to be in the top 70.

 

[mkaufman1]

Time for Mason and other mid majors to ban together and make our own NCAA tournament!!!11

Sadly, it sounds like its going in the direction of the "Power 6 invitational"

 

[2011WinOverVillanova]

Time for Mason and other mid majors to ban together and make our own NCAA tournament!!!11

Sadly, it sounds like its going in the direction of the "Power 6 invitational"

And you think people care about 1AA Football Playoffs outside of places like the Richmond Spiders and Delaware? Be careful what you wish for Mr. Met.

 

[mkaufman1]

And you think people care about 1AA Football Playoffs outside of places like the Richmond Spiders and Delaware? Be careful what you wish for Mr. Met.

I was being sarcastic and what does football have to do with my comment?

It’s almost November, mason football talk is for July.

 

[2011WinOverVillanova]

I was being sarcastic and what does football have to do with my comment?

It’s almost November, mason football talk is for July.

It's the concept of 1AA vs 1A. A two tiered system for all sports. That's what some are speculating about.

And frankly I fear a 1AA Basketball system is coming.

 

[mkaufman1]

It's the concept of 1AA vs 1A. A two tiered system for all sports. That's what some are speculating about.

And frankly I fear a 1AA Basketball system is coming.

Ugh, that would be miserable.

 

[GMUgemini]

Ugh, that would be miserable.

Yes but probably more difficult to pull off in basketball. Remember 1aa was created as a concession to the Ivy League to allow them to remain D1 but not have to shell out ridiculous amounts of money on their football programs or have to offer 8,000 scholarships.

P6 schools are outnumbered something like 3 to 1 in basketball (it would be difficult even if the P6 managed to get every school in the MWC, WCC, AAC, AND the A10 on board). If any non-P6 president votes to allow the NCAA to take away something like AQs from non-P6 conferences, then they just deserve to become irrelevant.

 

[GMUSSTN]

Yes but probably more difficult to pull off in basketball. Remember 1aa was created as a concession to the Ivy League to allow them to remain D1 but not have to shell out ridiculous amounts of money on their football programs or have to offer 8,000 scholarships.

P6 schools are outnumbered something like 3 to 1 in basketball (it would be difficult even if the P6 managed to get every school in the MWC, WCC, AAC, AND the A10 on board). If any non-P6 president votes to allow the NCAA to take away something like AQs from non-P6 conferences, then they just deserve to become irrelevant.

I doubt they'd remove the auto qualifiers versus implementing a system where they're irrelevant. Notice how the NIT identified the conferences that get their auto bids. Could just as easily get to a point where the NCAA decides that at large bids can only come from the P6. Then they "expand" the tournament (which is just making the "first four" like the "first 16" or something) and the autobids for basically all mid major conferences would wind up there, since P6 schools autobids typically go to teams that would be in the top 64 anyway.

This way the "first" round weeds out half the mid majors, and then the ones that do make the main field of 64 have to come off 2 days of rest to a fresh p6 school. Manage to win that game and you're playing your 3rd game in 6 days against another p6 school that just won after resting as well. The NCAA gets to keep the "cinderella story" branding by not excluding the mids, but you lessen the chances of a mid/low major making a run by forcing them into a bogus extra round of the tournament that knocks out half the field of cinderella capable teams by design.

The NCAA (and P6 schools) has made it clear: the profit line has to go up, exponentially, forever. If keeping the status quo earns $1B, but the consultants say that changing it to what I describe above makes $1.1B, they will side with the money every time.

 

[GMUgemini]

Yes, but the NCAA can more easily screw around with the NIT because it is not a recognized national championship tournament. Any changez made to the national championship structures have to be approved by the university presidents (in this case by over 350 of them).

Football has gotten away with it for so long because their post-season had been run by third parties (bowl committees) and then they convinced the NCAA they could regulate themselves (BCS).

 

[gmuballer14]

Didn't know where to put this. But NCAA looking to expand the tournament to 90 teams.

Gavitt: NCAA to be 'forward-looking' on tourney

Dan Gavitt, the NCAA's vice president of men's basketball, said NCAA tournament expansion is "not necessarily" inevitable but the event's officials have to be "forward-looking."

www.espn.com

 

[Leesburg Chankenstank III]

Didn't know where to put this. But NCAA looking to expand the tournament to 90 teams.

Gavitt: NCAA to be 'forward-looking' on tourney

Dan Gavitt, the NCAA's vice president of men's basketball, said NCAA tournament expansion is "not necessarily" inevitable but the event's officials have to be "forward-looking."

www.espn.com

These idiots won’t stop until “making the tournament” will no longer even be notable on a coaching resume.