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Game 6: GMU (4-1) vs Washington (2-2) on Monday, November 22, at 9:30 PM.

Patriotsince81

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This game is part of the Sanford Pentagon Crossover Classic from lovely Sioux Falls, South Dakota.

Washington is currently 2 -2 on the season having played all 4 games at home.

The Huskies were picked 11th in the Pac 12 preseason media poll.

Wins: Northern Arizona (73-62), Texas Southern (72-65)
Losses: Northern Illinois (71-64), Wyoming (72-65 OT)

Schedule: https://gohuskies.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule
Roster: https://gohuskies.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster
Stats: https://gohuskies.com/sports/mens-basketball/stats/2021-22?path=mbball

Washington is led by 6’3” Terrell Brown Jr. (18.3 ppg & 2.8 reb), 6’6” Jamal Bey (11.3 ppg & 5.5 reb), 6’3” Daejon Davis (10.8 ppg & 3.3 reb), and 6’7” Emmitt Mathews Jr. (10.0 ppg & 5.3 reb). 6’11” Nate Roberts (7.0 ppg & 14.5 reb) rounds out the starting lineup for the Huskies. 6’4” PJ Fuller, 6’7” Cole Bajema, and 6’9” Langston Wilson play double digit minutes off the bench.

The Huskies have averaged 70.3 points per game while giving up 66.8. Washington is shooting 35.3% from the floor and 26.7% from 3. Opponents are shooting 37.8% from the field and 28.2% from 3. The Huskies have been out rebounded by their opponents by an average of 8.5 boards per game.

The game is on ESPN+.

My prediction: Washington doesn’t shoot well, we do. GMU recovers from their spaz attack at JMU and wins 75 - 68. I have faith! The team celebrates the victory by playing in the snow and going to the Empire Mall food court because there is nothing else to do in Sioux Falls. Well, the team does tour the Butterfly House and Aquarium for added excitement. Josh Oduro is sighted at the Hy-Vee grocery store by locals who ask him for his autograph after learning he is not lost.

Discuss.
 
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psyclone

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Kenpom has Mason (#137) as a 1 pt favorite over UW (#140). We're currently a 6-8 pt underdog to Nevada and SD State (both ranked in the 70's).
 

GMU79

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Kenpom has Mason (#137) as a 1 pt favorite over UW (#140). We're currently a 6-8 pt underdog to Nevada and SD State (both ranked in the 70's).
That's how fast a team that most folks don't believe in can fall out of favor. I still think as the season goes on we are going to surprise a lot of people.
But about the turnovers and Hartwell....
 

tblack33

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That's how fast a team that most folks don't believe in can fall out of favor. I still think as the season goes on we are going to surprise a lot of people.
But about the turnovers and Hartwell....
Kenpom is an algorithm, there is no falling out of favor.

The computer machines did it.
 

GMU79

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Kenpom is an algorithm, there is no falling out of favor.

The computer machines did it.
Yes it was, even if the computers did it.
Although "favor" might have been the wrong descriptive. A win would have moved us up.
 

psyclone

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Yes it was, even if the computers did it.
Although "favor" might have been the wrong descriptive. A win would have moved us up.
Note: after the Md game, Kenpom had us at #140. After the Madison game we are now #137.

Not much different and certainly not worse. We were 1 pt underdog on Kenpom going into the game. Apparently losing on the road by 3 to an undefeated team doesn't move the needle. Naturally had we won, our current rating would have been better. Beating Md improved our ranking from 157 to 140 but took a big upset to do that (we were 16 point underdogs in that game).

The fact that Kenpom has us 6 and 7 pt underdogs to a couple of teams ranked in the 70s is consistent with his system.
 

psyclone

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Kenpom has Mason (#137) as a 1 pt favorite over UW (#140). We're currently a 6-8 pt underdog to Nevada and SD State (both ranked in the 70's).
Change in Kenpom from earlier. Mason (#140) is now a 1 pt underdog to UW (#139).

Digging deeper, UW is 25th nationally in creating turnovers. However, they are poor in effective FG% (#354). While they do well in getting a good % of their offensive rebounds (#64), that's an area that our defense is quite strong (#33).
 

GMU79

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Note: after the Md game, Kenpom had us at #140. After the Madison game we are now #137.

Not much different and certainly not worse. We were 1 pt underdog on Kenpom going into the game. Apparently losing on the road by 3 to an undefeated team doesn't move the needle. Naturally had we won, our current rating would have been better. Beating Md improved our ranking from 157 to 140 but took a big upset to do that (we were 16 point underdogs in that game).

The fact that Kenpom has us 6 and 7 pt underdogs to a couple of teams ranked in the 70s is consistent with his system.
Okay, I admit defeat. I clearly am not as attuned to these ranking systems as you guys are.
 

psyclone

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Change in Kenpom from earlier. Mason (#140) is now a 1 pt underdog to UW (#139).

Digging deeper, UW is 25th nationally in creating turnovers. However, they are poor in effective FG% (#354). While they do well in getting a good % of their offensive rebounds (#64), that's an area that our defense is quite strong (#33).
Sagarin "predictors" much different than Kenpom which apparently is still substantially influenced by the poorer preseason ranking (Mason started at #211, now at #140).

Mason (# 75) favored by 6 over UW, 3.5 over Nevada, and a 1-1.5 underdog (could be 4.5 depending if you consider this a "home" game for S Dakota St).
 

Leesburg Chankenstank III

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Sagarin "predictors" much different than Kenpom which apparently is still substantially influenced by the poorer preseason ranking (Mason started at #211, now at #140).

Mason (# 75) favored by 6 over UW, 3.5 over Nevada, and a 1-1.5 underdog (could be 4.5 depending if you consider this a "home" game for S Dakota St).
That’s really interesting. I thought Kenpom was all math. Thought every team started at zero. Thanks for the insight.
 

Earl the Squirrel

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If this team is as good as advertised, we go 3-0. If we go 1-2 then I wil dial back my expectations to a Top 6 A10 finish, which will be a Big Step Forward for the program, and a feather in KE's hat.

Based on what I have seen...3-0 is likely. At that point, we get votes, do we not?
 

sleeperpick

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If this team is as good as advertised, we go 3-0. If we go 1-2 then I wil dial back my expectations to a Top 6 A10 finish, which will be a Big Step Forward for the program, and a feather in KE's hat.

Based on what I have seen...3-0 is likely. At that point, we get votes, do we not?
We are facing three very good opponents not sure how 3-0 is likely.
 

GMUYoda

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If this team is as good as advertised, we go 3-0. If we go 1-2 then I wil dial back my expectations to a Top 6 A10 finish, which will be a Big Step Forward for the program, and a feather in KE's hat.

Based on what I have seen...3-0 is likely. At that point, we get votes, do we not?
3-0 is a bit too ambitious IMO. I would accept 2-1. Anything less would be disappointing
 

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