Predict the Next Coach Pool

[p8triotfan4liferightnow]

If we don't hear something by Monday or we start to see what would seem to be our Tier B options start to accept new positions, that is when I start to have some real concern.

I love the random deadlines some of you guys set on these things. What if they are going after Caputo for real, Miami is still playing in the NIT.

 

[GSII]

Or BBB can sell the new vision of what the school is planning for the program. What you currently see on campus I saw in drawings back in 1998 while working for Merten. Im sure they have a plan on paper.

LoL..Merten would hang renderings all over his office and dance around in his tighty whiteys singing his famous french montana adaptation rap song....

I aint worried bout nuttn
The Johnson Center aint shit!,
I aint worried bout nuttn
im ridn round wit Czarda, Scherrens in lot B
Axin where da hell is Tom O' Cee
I aint worried bout nuttn
Im ridn round with that AK, that HK, that SK
That beam or the scope
Windows down, blown smoke
Try rob me, goin get smoked
Johnson center aint shiyyaaaaat
Sports be frontin like a hoe,
I aint worried, it just a side doe
I aint worried about nuttn

 

[KAOriginal]

I love the random deadlines some of you guys set on these things. What if they are going after Caputo for real, Miami is still playing in the NIT.

If they are targeting Caputo for real, considering the other prospects out there like Cherry....then I would be very concerned.

 

[dr. gunnie]

I love the random deadlines some of you guys set on these things. What if they are going after Caputo for real, Miami is still playing in the NIT.

I'm not worried about the timetable either, because so many coaches were/are still coaching when the job came open. I would take that Parker quote with a grain of salt.

If we are going after Caputo for real, that worries me. When you throw out the names that we've been hearing over the last few days - Prohm at Murray St, Young at Wofford, Moton at NCCU, Brown at Albany those are guys that have experience running teams and have done it successfully. I just don't think Caputo is in the same league yet. Doesn't mean he won't be someday, but he hasn't proved that he can do it yet like some of the other guys.

I also liked the Hewitt hire, so you should probably do opposite of what I say. Always bet against Dr. G.

 

[KAOriginal]

If we are going after Caputo for real, that worries me. When you throw out the names that we've been hearing over the last few days - Prohm at Murray St, Young at Wofford, Moton at NCCU, Brown at Albany those are guys that have experience running teams and have done it successfully. I just don't think Caputo is in the same league yet. Doesn't mean he won't be someday, but he hasn't proved that he can do it yet like some of the other guys..

Agreed. I hate to be TOC.....but you would really have to sell me on going with an unproven assistant at this juncture in our program considering other names out there.

I just think we need a guy who has already shown he knows how to be the head coach with some success.

 

[dr. gunnie]

I know this article on Levelle Moton was on twitter last night, but I didn't see it on here (sorry if it was already posted):

"Rumors linked him to the UNC-Charlotte position vacated by former head coach Alan Major, but the 49ers have reportedly hired Hornets assistant coach Mark Price. The hire will be officially announced Thursday afternoon.

After firing head coach Paul Hewitt, George Mason is in the market for a new head coach, and the Patriots have reached out to Moton's agent, he said Wednesday.

Though Moton wouldn't disclose any more details about the George Mason position and said no other schools have reached out to his agent Jordan Bazant, he did say that he is continuing to listen to offers and opportunities presented to him. "

http://www.heraldsun.com/news/showcase/x268553435/Coaching-rumors-swirl-around-Moton-again

 

[GSII]

When BBB says words like "powerhouse" then lets rumors out with words like Caputo, Moton, Baggett, and 27 other names....I feel alittle worried. Like he doesnt know how to go about getting the right guy. Another reason im worried is the search was handed to a search firm, when it sounded like BBB was doing it in house. Maybe the search firm isnt needed and we know we got our guy, but needed it to ease concerns of some higher ups then fine. Guess we will see if "powerhouse"and new coach add up. It does with Prohm. In Steve We Believe!!

 

[KAOriginal]

When BBB says words like "powerhouse" then lets rumors out with words like Caputo, Moton, Baggett, and 27 other names....I feel alittle worried. Like he doesnt know how to go about getting the right guy. Another reason im worried is the search was handed to a search firm, when it sounded like BBB was doing it in house. Maybe the search firm isnt needed and we know we got our guy, but needed it to ease concerns of some higher ups then fine. Guess we will see if "powerhouse"and new coach add up. It does with Prohm. In Steve We Believe!!

You just articulated my concerns as well.

 

[Herndon]

You just articulated my concerns as well.

Same here. Couldn't have phrased it better myself. I don't necessarily hate any of those names, but they don't backup the big talk I heard here.

 

[Quentin Daniels]

I know this article on Levelle Moton was on twitter last night, but I didn't see it on here (sorry if it was already posted):

"Rumors linked him to the UNC-Charlotte position vacated by former head coach Alan Major, but the 49ers have reportedly hired Hornets assistant coach Mark Price. The hire will be officially announced Thursday afternoon.

After firing head coach Paul Hewitt, George Mason is in the market for a new head coach, and the Patriots have reached out to Moton's agent, he said Wednesday.

Though Moton wouldn't disclose any more details about the George Mason position and said no other schools have reached out to his agent Jordan Bazant, he did say that he is continuing to listen to offers and opportunities presented to him. "

http://www.heraldsun.com/news/showcase/x268553435/Coaching-rumors-swirl-around-Moton-again

The guy seems to be a bit of a self-promoter to put it mildly.

 

[wijg]

I would argue Cabrera and BBB have made it clear that athletics are the front door to the University. Even saying as much. The move to thebA10 being one indicator.

I love your optimism and enthusiasm, but I am trying to pin point what action has gotten you to the point where you have no doubt. There has been a refreshing change in the words that are coming out, and that is promising. The A10 move was not even a question in my mind. Hiring BE is still a good on paper, hire, but nothing has cemented it yet. Firing Hewitt was an obvious move as well. So, what actions have happened that say we are committed to athletics? There have been no blunders, so far, but I haven't seen any actions yet that remove all doubt.

Not trying to be a downer, just trying to be objective.

 

[Pikapppatri8]

When BBB says words like "powerhouse" then lets rumors out with words like Caputo, Moton, Baggett, and 27 other names....I feel alittle worried. Like he doesnt know how to go about getting the right guy. Another reason im worried is the search was handed to a search firm, when it sounded like BBB was doing it in house. Maybe the search firm isnt needed and we know we got our guy, but needed it to ease concerns of some higher ups then fine. Guess we will see if "powerhouse"and new coach add up. It does with Prohm. In Steve We Believe!!

I would agree - however, a search firm helps you get information and data to help formulate a decision it does not mean a total outsourcing of the process. Recall - there was plenty of criticism made at TOC for doing it all himself without getting enough external input.

Damned if you do - damned if you don't

 

[GSII]

I love your optimism and enthusiasm, but I am trying to pin point what action has gotten you to the point where you have no doubt. There has been a refreshing change in the words that are coming out, and that is promising. The A10 move was not even a question in my mind. Hiring BE is still a good on paper, hire, but nothing has cemented it yet. Firing Hewitt was an obvious move as well. So, what actions have happened that say we are committed to athletics? There have been no blunders, so far, but I haven't seen any actions yet that remove all doubt.

Not trying to be a downer, just trying to be objective.

It starts with Brad. If he is who says he is, then we should be fine.

 

[GSII]

I would agree - however, a search firm helps you get information and data to help formulate a decision it does not mean a total outsourcing of the process. Recall - there was plenty of criticism made at TOC for doing it all himself without getting enough external input.

Damned if you do - damned if you don't

I guess...just hurry the f**k up bc I need to get my life back in order. LoL

 

[KAOriginal]

I would agree - however, a search firm helps you get information and data to help formulate a decision it does not mean a total outsourcing of the process. Recall - there was plenty of criticism made at TOC for doing it all himself without getting enough external input.

Damned if you do - damned if you don't

The reality is probably...that Edwards wants a coach...he calls Parker says give me the dirt on these 5 names I like. Then give me a list of the next 5 that are similar based on information. Then Parker provides the info.

So I fully feel Edwards is in charge, its just Parker does all the legwork and hoops jumping instead of Mason doing it in house. Which is not bad.....just seems awkward when your arch rival cellar dwellar in nearly the same quadrant of the country is using them too...lol.

 

[wijg]

I love the random deadlines some of you guys set on these things. What if they are going after Caputo for real, Miami is still playing in the NIT.

The rest of the crew as pretty much shredded your Caputo comment to my satisfaction, so I won't address that. (You expressed my concerns, too, GSII)

I will address the "deadline" comment, though. I wasn't setting a deadline, it was just when I would be concerned about getting a top level coach. And, I provided the reason for why I chose my time frame for when I would be concerned so it wasn't random either. Parker says they usually do it within 10-14 days, If we get to Tuesday, that is 15 days. Isn't Prohm the only one we would seriously be waiting for to finish their season at this point? If we can't get to yes or no with him by the end of Monday (that would be 4 days since he can talk openly), given all the back channel communications should have been done by now, don't you think that would be odd? I would think that by Monday, most of the Tier 1 candidates will be locked down, and maybe some in our lower Tiers as well. Obviously, if there are more firings at hire level programs, that changes things somewhat, but I only see that making things worse, not better.

And if you had fully digested my post, you would have seen that I said that I was not concerned about getting a good coach beyond Monday, just that I would be concerned that we won't land one that removes all doubt. Caputo falls in that category for me. Good coach, but unproven as a head coach, so there would be some doubt in my mind that we had gotten the best candidate.

 

[psyclone]

Much speculation these days (at least on Tony Kornheiser) on whether Calipari leaves UK if they win the next 4. Some thinking that he may go back to the NBA having nothing left to prove in terms of NCAA legacy.

Of course, that would open one of the biggest jobs in the country which may trigger a domino effect even if the guys we're looking at (maybe with the exception of Prohm and his familiarity in Kentucky) aren't candidates for that job. Similarly if/when Texas pulls the trigger on Barnes in April (to save some buyout).

So it may not be in some candidates' interest to jump too quickly.

 

[Walter]

The guy seems to be a bit of a self-promoter to put it mildly.

That was my impression of him as well. Which could be good or bad. The question is, Can he back it up?

 

[GMUgemini]

You guys are so funny. You realize the two most effective coaches in the A10 had no head coaching experience before taking over Dayton and vcu. Then there is Fordham who hired Pecora who was pretty successful recruiting to Hofstra. No NCAA, but he won a lot of games there. And he couldn't move Fordham an inch.

 

[p8triotfan4liferightnow]

You guys are so funny. You realize the two most effective coaches in the A10 had no head coaching experience before taking over Dayton and vcu. Then there is Fordham who hired Pecora who was pretty successful recruiting to Hofstra. No NCAA, but he won a lot of games there. And he couldn't move Fordham an inch.

Yeah I continue to find it funny some on here have zero faith in Caputo, as if his experience is meaningless or something because he wasn't a head coach. Do they not realize assistants do must the work and prep?