Open Scrimmage 10/4/25

[Patriotsince81]

One scrimmage. One day. Decide for yourselves. Gold Team 72- Green Team 66.

Gold Team:
Sivka 14 pts & 8 rebounds 6-12 fg (2-5 from 3)
Kanga 10 pts & 8 rebounds 4-5 fg
Presley 9 pts & 2 rebounds 4-7 fg (1-4 from 3)
O'Connor 18 pts & 5 rebounds 6-12 gg (1-4 from 3)
Long 19 pts 5-13 fg (1-3 from 3)

Green Team:
Adebayo 8 pts & 2 reb 3-11 fg (1-5 from 3)
Allenspach 8 pts & 9 rebounds 4-8 fg (0-2 from 3)
Troutman 21 pts & 8 rebounds 6-13 fg ( 1-4 from 3 ) 8-11 free throws
Mincy 4 pts & 0 rebounds (0-2 from 3)
Hill 8 pts & 4 reb 3-8 fg (2-6 from 3)
Booker 17 pts & 2 rebounds 6-7 fg ( 5-6 from 3)

O'Connor & Hill both had 5 assists.
Long and Mincy played point respectively.

More thoughts later.

 

[mkaufman1]

National champs!

 

[Patriotsince81]

National champs!

First or worst baby!!!!!!

 

[Patriotsince81]

Both Kanga and Booker looked much better than the average frosh. They played without fear.
Allenspach and Sivka = The Big Fundamentals. Both can/will contribute positively.
I was surprised to see Long running the point for the Gold Team.
It's VERY early but I would put us behind where we were at the same time last year.
The attendance sucked. No surprise there.
Always nice to see members of the board @tblack33 and have a chance to compare notes/thoughts. .

 

[jkh1978]

The attendance sucked. No surprise there.

Maybe not hold stuff in the middle of the day. Other things are going on.
Was the mile walk well attended?

 

[psyclone]

I saw about 3/4 of scrimmage. Lots of athleticism.
Agree on Booker (really can shoot the open 3!) and Kanga (defensive presence; sometimes has trouble handling passes).
Sivka is an asset moving the ball; works well with BOC.
Mincy was a bit of a disappointment (2 assists, 2 TOs).
Hill 5/1

 

[DRK331]

27 minute Youtube video of the 2025 Open Practice. Drills and Green and Gold Scrimmage content here

 

[psyclone]

I saw about 3/4 of scrimmage. Lots of athleticism.
Agree on Booker (really can shoot the open 3!) and Kanga (defensive presence; sometimes has trouble handling passes).
Sivka is an asset moving the ball; works well with BOC.
Mincy was a bit of a disappointment (2 assists, 2 TOs).
Hill 5/1

No sign of Ellington other than the headshot roster picture that was available.

 

[NewPatriot]

I was surprised to see Long running the point for the Gold Team.

I could see Long getting the starting mod.

89 games of experience in the Big East and Big Ten

 

[Patriotsince81]

Maybe not hold stuff in the middle of the day. Other things are going on.

Based on your question I'll have to assume you were not in attendance. When would you like to see events of this nature?

 

[tblack33]

All the usual can’t take much away from one scrimmage in October blah blah….

I’d temper your expectations for this team. Feels like there’s a talent gap between us and the top of the conference that didn’t exist last year. Middle of the pack feels about right, somewhere between 6-9 depending on how the ball bounces a few nights.

Mincy looked nice handling the ball, but I don’t think he defends at a high enough level to be a starter in Tony’s system. I won’t be surprised if he ends up coming off the bench at some point.

BOC had stretches where it was clear he knew the system and how to thrive in it, and stretches where he completely disappeared.

Troutman looked legit. Very smooth finisher. Should have a great season.

Kanga better than expected, I could see him pushing for starter type minutes by conference play.

Booker with a very smooth jumper and really flowed in the offense, but isn’t close to there defensively yet. Maybe by January, because we’re going to desperately need shooting.

Hill probably the most athletic and one of the best defenders, but more limited offensively.

Think there’s a lot of opportunity for Dola to do well here but he seems like he’s still learning the system more than most at this point.

Long looked really good and can plug in a few places. His experience is going to be invaluable.

A lot more thoughts, I’ll be interested to see what things look like in 4 weeks when the season kicks off.

 

[NewPatriot]

All the usual can’t take much away from one scrimmage in October blah blah….

I’d temper your expectations for this team. Feels like there’s a talent gap between us and the top of the conference that didn’t exist last year. Middle of the pack feels about right, somewhere between 6-9 depending on how the ball bounces a few nights.

Mincy looked nice handling the ball, but I don’t think he defends at a high enough level to be a starter in Tony’s system. I won’t be surprised if he ends up coming off the bench at some point.

BOC had stretches where it was clear he knew the system and how to thrive in it, and stretches where he completely disappeared.

Troutman looked legit. Very smooth finisher. Should have a great season.

Kanga better than expected, I could see him pushing for starter type minutes by conference play.

Booker with a very smooth jumper and really flowed in the offense, but isn’t close to there defensively yet. Maybe by January, because we’re going to desperately need shooting.

Hill probably the most athletic and one of the best defenders, but more limited offensively.

Think there’s a lot of opportunity for Dola to do well here but he seems like he’s still learning the system more than most at this point.

Long looked really good and can plug in a few places. His experience is going to be invaluable.

A lot more thoughts, I’ll be interested to see what things look like in 4 weeks when the season kicks off.

I think a better indicator of talent is the player game logs.

For example Hill:

Jermahri Hill 2024-25 Stats per Game - NCAAM - ESPN

The 2024-25 NCAAM season stats per game for Jermahri Hill of the Ball State Cardinals on ESPN. Includes full stats, per opponent, for regular and postseason.

www.espn.com

If you look at his game log, he averaged about 16 per game. 27 of 31 over double digits, 17 games with 17 or more, 8 with 20 or more (including 25 vs. Dayton, 22 vs Richmond). ...he gets for rack and draws fouls..17 games with 6+ fta...12-13 vs Dayton.

Alot of these guys were the no 1 options on their previous teams..they have to figures out how to sacrifice their games and blend together...